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DKL

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The shitty weeaboo thread
« on: April 02, 2013, 09:20:41 pm »
Since we kinda veered off into this, I might as well make a topic that will go on to be updated every 2 months.

What animu did you watch recently?

So I watched this motherfucking show and am now prepared to hand over my first-born child for when Aniplex inevitably tries to gouge me with its ridiculous prices for the second season (which will have like 3 OAVs since they need a way to sucker me into buying the show):



Also, if people are interested, I'll tell of the story of how The Pet Girl of Sakura Hall restored my faith in anime.
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Re: The shitty weeaboo thread
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2013, 09:41:52 pm »
Also, I watched this documentary and I'm like...

How is Dan not in jail? >_>

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-02/cbldf-streams-documentary-short-about-ryan-matheson-case

Anyway, shit was scary...

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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2013, 10:27:22 am »
I finished gdgd Fairies season 2 and Senyuu. last night.

Both are fairly entertaining, though Senyuu did not exactly have a masterstroke ending because they revealed a second season that episode, lol

gdgd Fairies on the other hand was pretty fantastic, but in the sort of sly "we're ending on business as usual" way rather than go for anything fantastic or really heavy on spectacle. That show probably managed to have the most fantastic use of time travel I've seen in "anime" while being totally casual about it. Just a really fun, creative comedy overall.

Also I started going through the Gundam SEED HD Remasters with someone cause we both hate ourselves...

I also finished Zetsuen no Tempest and AKB0048 Next Stage recently. I'm not sure I'm ready to comment about anything thematic in either case yet, but they're both fun rides that really emphasize the cliffhanger cut and big bomb reveals to keep the hype train pumping. AKB0048 also has the added, interesting tension where someone on staff VERY explicitly has an axe to grind about the idol industry but is keeping his/her opinions on the fringes and details of the work than as the major thematic center, due to the obvious consideration that the show's paid for by AKB48 lol. It makes many aspects of the show very eerie indeed.

EDIT: Oh right, I finished Ai-Mai-Mi just a bit back too. That show's just awesome. Best surreal/non-sequitur/absurdist comedy anime short I've probably seen.
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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2013, 06:57:28 pm »
Also, I watched this documentary and I'm like...

How is Dan not in jail? >_>

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-04-02/cbldf-streams-documentary-short-about-ryan-matheson-case

Anyway, shit was scary...

I've been under the impression he had Lolicon stuff on his computer all these years but it was actually just wholesome "normal" stuff?
That just makes me even more angry. In fact it makes me really mad.
I thought in the past that it was normal Manga being debated (even now by the swedish queen even) but I shrugged it off thinking they can't possibly be that stupid but I was wrong apparantly.


I've been watching Da Capo III and Little Busters lately but I havn't been able to for the past 10 weeks for various reasons.
I've been catching up on Little Busters since last night, just taking a small break right now.
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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2013, 11:48:22 pm »
That just makes me even more angry. In fact it makes me really mad.
I thought in the past that it was normal Manga being debated (even now by the swedish queen even) but I shrugged it off thinking they can't possibly be that stupid but I was wrong apparantly.

I seem to recall Canada being infamous for a little while for being one of the first countries to be so clear-cut that they would consider completely-imaginary drawn lolicon porn etc. to be 'just as bad' as photographs of actual children being abused - maybe it was this case I was thinking of, I've certainly heard of it before.

It's an idea that's gaining traction around the world, though - I kind of suspect that it's largely because governments and media organisations don't have much else they can reliably whip up a public frenzy with, these days. Few people in the 'western world' (outside of the US, at least) are nationalist enough to get angry about people insulting their country any more, violent torture porn is a big Hollywood industry nowadays with the Saw movies etc., there's people who'll argue on both sides regarding things like immigration or social welfare, the only wars we get involved in these days the government gets heavily criticised for... but everyone bar no-one thinks child abusers are the lowest of the low absolute scumbags, and even if you didn't it's not a politically safe opinion to broach in public.



I've not been watching much anime lately, 'cause nothing seems that interesting from the short synopses I read around, and I don't have the time any more to just watch six episodes of anime speculatively in case it turns out to be half decent. I think the last thing I watched through to conclusion was probably Durarara... currently kind of enjoying Maoyu, though. I thought Space Brothers was going to be worth a watch, but the first episode failed to catch my interest enough, and now I hear that it's longer than 26 episodes I'm kind of put off it more. Nearly all the best stuff I've seen has been 12 or 13-ep series, I think...

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« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2013, 11:57:46 am »
I'm watching so much fucking shit right now that I don't even know where to start...

AKB0048 also has the added, interesting tension where someone on staff VERY explicitly has an axe to grind about the idol industry but is keeping his/her opinions on the fringes and details of the work than as the major thematic center, due to the obvious consideration that the show's paid for by AKB48 lol.

When enough people work on something, you'll likely have people annoyed that this is the only work they can get...

(in fact, I'm under the impression that the industry in its current capacity is very annoying for many people to work in... it's really gonna come down to who quits and who keeps going... Hiroshi Hamasaki and Atsuko Ishizuka seem to have no issue that their most recent work was primarily aimed at otaku and tried to make the most out of it to produce interesting results)

Anyway, stuff I've been watching...

Oreshura was kinda ass... the main character ends up with that silver-haired bitch for some reason... overall, thing mostly felt like a lame and less intelligent version of Chunibyo (which may be Kyoto Animation's best work primarily because it feels like it tells their success story as a studio... it seems like something very appropriate for them to make).

Haganai NEXT ending was also pretty ass... talks about making a decision regarding the women in his harem... does not actually get to make a decision.

In fact, watching harem shows feels too much like going to the horse races, only to have the bookie punch you in the face before you find out who actually wins.

Oreimo 2 came out today... I now need to figure out what to do with my life while I wait for the next episode.

On one hand, I like Oreimo because it's so fucking otakutastic and feeds the monster in me... on the other hand, it's actually a pretty dumb show with a lot of unintentional humor and unintentionally clever insight regarding otaku.

Would watch this week's episode again for Kuroneko scene.

Also, here's some actual commentary on Kurenai:

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It's funny that this show [Kurenai] and Rozen Maiden have the same director.

Really liked the intensity of episode 1 (of Kurenai) and it's more in line of what I remember of his episodes in Master Keaton (particularly episode 27, which has this great piece of staging that I really really liked).

Oh, here's the clip:

http://youtu.be/hjxNFhAxcow?t=17m3s

Great great piece of staging.

EDIT:

Oh man, this show is hella legit...

As someone who deals with the children every day, I think that the show captures it really really well: this entire sequence where they bicker over the necessity of thanking the old bath house lady for giving Murasaki some milk was kinda brilliant and did a really good job of adding insight to what Murasaki's previous life was like (Murasaki thinks that she shouldn't thank the old lady because she's a servant... but upon discovering what the true intentions of the old lady were, Murasaki delivers her thanks and apologizes for its delay as if it was some kind of business service that didn't arrive on time).

Murasaki is a very convincing 7 year old and I haven't seen difficult kids depicted this well since... Hanada Shonen Shi?



 I thought Space Brothers was going to be worth a watch, but the first episode failed to catch my interest enough, and now I hear that it's longer than 26 episodes I'm kind of put off it more.

This show was a breath of fresh air because it starred niggas my age. It also touched on a very human topic: what's it like when you grow up and realize that you're a fraud?

That said, I stopped watching for some reason despite really liking it.

I think it was around the time that I just went heavy into games.

That said, on the age-old topic of fraudulence, I wish they'd give Masayuki Kojima money to make 20th Century Boys into an anime, but who knows where that dude went after Tibetan Dog...
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Re: The shitty weeaboo thread
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2013, 07:16:33 pm »
Go easy on the spoilers, man >__o;;
Not like I'll watch any of that. I'm in my busiest months of the past four years so whatevs~

The idol thing looks sort of fun. I'm going to watch ALL the crap come July. I might have warmed up by watching the first episode of Photokano, but I was just curious as to how much story they'd try to give to an anime just about taking pantyshots. (More than I expected, it seems)
Also had Patlabor 1 on yesterday during hairdyeing procedures, since y'all reminded me of it.

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Re: The shitty weeaboo thread
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2013, 08:43:27 pm »
Do we actually have spoiler boxes?

[spoiler]fdnlnlfdslkdfsnklfdslkjfds[/spoiler]

Apparently not.

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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2013, 08:51:34 pm »
Dan hates us too much for that.

The only other place I post online [other than tumblr] is /cgl/, we don't get spoilers there either.

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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2013, 02:34:11 am »
I think you could

Shrink the text

Or make it white on white

Neither of those where very good...
and everyother post has blue background...

Maybe just go SPOILER ALERT!
It's a classic.
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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2013, 11:21:44 am »
SPOILER ALERT does it fine, anyone that reads after that without wanting to know things is silly.

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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2013, 01:17:53 pm »
SPOILER ALERT does it fine, anyone that reads after that without wanting to know things is silly.

But because it's marked as something you shouldn't read makes you want to read it even more!

Also, I don't know why Kotoura-san's second ED sequence is specifically about the flatness of her chest.

These fucking otaku shows.

I'mma keep watching.

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« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2013, 06:45:24 am »
Aku no Hana seems fun enough, even if it's visually different.
I don't actually get why they didn't just make it live action or full anime, but whatever.

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« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2013, 11:13:18 pm »
Aku no Hana seems fun enough, even if it's visually different.
I don't actually get why they didn't just make it live action or full anime, but whatever.

Oh, this is very timely as I've talked about it a lot in detail:

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Personally, I thought the visuals were interesting because of the detailed movement (what Nagahama decides to show you), but I actually thought that a lot of the “strength” of the visuals came from the fact that the base was very strong:

I feel like the strength of the show’s visuals comes from the base footage that the studio has been cribbing from, rather than like the ingenuity of the animators…

Like, I’m inclined to think that it’s more about the direction of the live-action actors (who, interestingly, sometimes are not voice actors in this production, going by ANN’s staff page) than it is of the animators, which is probably very different than most anime.

And the base footage would be interesting to look at… for all we know, this was all shot in a warehouse somewhere, but then they composited everything later on.

(there was this one scene in episode 2 with Kasuga pumping away on his bike and for a moment, I was under the impression that maybe the original actor wasn’t on a bike, but an exercise bike… it would definitely be easier to capture the intensity of the sequence if it was done on an exercise bike)

This entire production is such a black box right now, so I’m interested in more director/staff interviews.

God knows if we get that though.

Also, some of the still cuts are pretty cool: the zoom to Kasuga’s face in the first episode really stands out to me…

In fact, that entire sequence was awesome… people talk about “why anime?”, not realizing that maybe Nagahama wouldn’t have access to tools he needs in live action film in order to set mood like that… and even looking beyond the production stuff, it’s quite possible that he’s still very interested in doing “anime”.

Kawajiri put it best: anime is just very “cinematic” and “addicting”…

For all my frustrations with it over the years (Hiroshi Hamasaki making a marvel anime? Ryosuke Nakamura making a 4-koma adapation? Atsuko Ishizuka making a harem show? WHAT?), I guess there’s a reason why I myself have stuck around lol

(I do like Ishizuka’s harem show though… felt a lot like a love-letter to other animators out there: despite how bad it all gets, never give up)


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Second episode was hilarious.

It opens with Kasuga raising those gym clothes as if it was his personal deity... there was a very religious type of quality to the scene that I found pretty interesting to look at.

Then the overall tone with Kasuga writhing around in pain was pretty funny...

(heck, even the show's staff kinda sees the humor in all of it: when Kasuga runs away from Nakamura, they decide not to show you the entire cut for comedic effect)

I don't think Kasuga realizes that it's not as big a deal as he was making it out to be (seems like Saeki just got over it after a day... if even that long), but he can't seem to get out of his head...

Treats the entire thing like he went out and murdered someone and now he's a criminal on the run (even uses the same rationale that first-time criminals use: "I'm not actually like that", "I didn't mean to do it").

This guy goes "The path of evil is really difficult", but it's like, dude: you stole someone's gym clothes WTF lol

That being said, it's weird how Kasuga always seems to think that's he's alone in the world (he's all "none of these scrubs are on my level"), but when you look at his home life, it's just really normal... he even has a hardcore reading buddy in the form of his dad, but I guess that's just further proof that you're a kid when you can't just take a step back and see stuff like that.

I like the last scene... probably because I've never seen it done with this cold/naturalistic kind of sensibility before (you almost have to double back and see if it actually happened like you thought it did).

Like... I've seen too much harem/ecchi stuff with uncreative staging that tries to get away with it.

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2013, 03:50:18 pm »
In fact, that entire sequence was awesome… people talk about “why anime?”, not realizing that maybe Nagahama wouldn’t have access to tools he needs in live action film in order to set mood like that… and even looking beyond the production stuff, it’s quite possible that he’s still very interested in doing “anime”.

One really stand-out reason for me would be that the anime presentation allows them to blend the not-real with the real rather seamlessly. Easy example: the sequences in the first episode with the flower-thing blowing in the wind and opening its eye didn't jar because they were presented in exactly the same medium as the rest of the programme. Imagine that animated sequence in a live-action movie? Or even worse, a shitty CGI version?

Compare to the movie of A Scanner Darkly, the only other 'big' example of rotoscoping in popular media that I can think of. I suspect the reason for rotoscoping there is similar - you get all the familiarity and identifiability of live-action footage, but you can blend in the weird shit and nobody sees how crappy your CGI really is, it all just fits. Or the scramble suits? I doubt they could have done those nearly so well in regular CG-over-live-action.


In this thing, though, I suspect that part of the 'weird shit'/not-real is precisely that anime aesthetic that habitual watchers have grown so accustomed to that it's ... nostalgic? As familiar as reality? That carries with it a set of tropes which are accepted in anime and manga and needed to suspend disbelief - and would probably seem more crude and out of place in a pure live-action thing - but at the same time the live-action aspect and the more-realistic portrayal makes it much easier (at least to me) to identify with the protagonist and understand his paranoia/worry/angst/etc.

I mean, take the last scene in the second episode.

I suspect that most real-life high-school smells-of-shampoo girls either a) wouldn't have gone to the library when creepy-grin-girl asked them to in the first place or b) would have just said "what the hell, creepy-grin girl? Why did you push this poor guy into my breasts, you stupid bitch?". Especially since she's already established a reputation for Not Fitting In With The Cultural Norms.
It's Very Convenient that shampoo-girl turns up exactly after protagonist-chan has finished his I-didn't-do-it-so-I-could-masturbate-into-her-gym-uniform speech. It seems doubtful that a hopeful manipulative blackmailer would have wanted to get that out of him when there was a chance that shampoo-girl could overhear it, but she did because she has this Evil Plan which relies on a Very Convenient Sequence of Events.
Real people don't fall into that kind of cliché that easily, it's all anime-trope stuff. There's no such thing as a pretty perfect-flower high-school girl, in reality, and they look more fake in live-action stuff than they do in anime. The obligatory anime breast-plunge scene? Do it in live-action and it looks faintly ridiculous, but it's somehow more believable when it's this odd blend of animation and live-action than it would be in either of the two alone, IMO.

I don't know, maybe it's just the novelty of it. Whatever it is, it's working for now.



(I finally got my copy of Fire Emblem today (a day early, bitches! ....yeah...) so I don't know what I'm doing writing stuff on the Internet. :/)