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Sar

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Re: Dangers of Akihabara
« Reply #30 on: March 30, 2013, 11:38:36 pm »
I would like to also add a tentative

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Re: Dangers of Akihabara
« Reply #31 on: March 31, 2013, 05:32:54 am »
OK... So you all think it's a good idea' to see her again?
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« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2013, 12:19:52 pm »
No, a bad idea! A bad one!
If she's charging you to meet up with her, it's all terribly wrong.

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« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2013, 08:01:31 pm »

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« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2013, 01:08:39 am »
Hahaha.

Well she's all I have...
So it's this or going back to horrible solitude so suffocating I just want to kill myself.

Like the abused women of the world I say "I can change her. She loves me deep down"
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« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2013, 02:13:12 am »

So it's this or going back to horrible solitude so suffocating I just want to kill myself.


I think the real tragedy of all this is that we're all very VERY aware that this is clearly a bad idea...

I need to... think of something useful to say...

But this is a fool's task given that humanity in general has nothing useful to say >______>

...

Try learning martial arts?

Or... some kind of hobby that isn't otaku-tastic that will get you around people...

(which is... hard... everything else is so fucking boring... like really really fucking boring that I want to claw my eyes out)

But the thing is that, when you're around people, don't actually chase some ass and just get into the habit of being around people.

DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT ISN'T WHATEVER THIS IS.

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« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2013, 02:36:11 am »
I'm with DKL here. I imagine Sar probably will agree too.
You're not going to want to start up a new hobby, or do anything apart from wallow in a pool of longing.
But is that really what you set out to do in going to Japan?

You need to find out what sort of societies and clubs/classes are available in your part of town, like DKL said.
I have no idea what sort of classes and clubs you'll find, or how the dynamic for these things will be over there, but it can't be a worse way of spending time or money than the cafe was.

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« Reply #37 on: April 01, 2013, 10:51:04 am »
Try learning martial arts?

Or... some kind of hobby that isn't otaku-tastic that will get you around people...

(which is... hard... everything else is so fucking boring... like really really fucking boring that I want to claw my eyes out)

To be honest, even otaku-tastic hobbies. Even the hardest of hardcore geeks, nerds and otaku like to talk to other people who understand their thing. If you get entertainment or calm or a sense of purpose or well-being or accomplishment or anything out of it, then it's not a bad hobby.

Martial arts do it for some people, hobbies do it for some people, but it doesn't have to be either of those - personally, I think the main thing is just that you have something to do which you enjoy, but more importantly feel comfortable doing and you don't have to put on any kind of façade for. If that's practising for bar fights martial arts, that's good. If it's building Gundam kits, that's good too. If it's sitting on a bench and staring at street lamps... whatever, so long as you can be the fuck out of yourself on that damn bench.


I also think that the fundamentally important thing for someone in your position is to accept objectively that sooner or later you're going to stop fooling yourself and accept that company with someone who doesn't particularly care whether you're there or not isn't really company, and that kind of relationship can't really be fulfilling. You don't have to accept it emotionally right away, there's no point pretending to yourself on another level over the top of the one you're already pretending to yourself on, 'cause that leads to self-loathing and all that shit. Just objectively is fine to start with.


I went through a couple of phases of trying to persuade people to like me more than they did, most recently with a girl I met at university, and looking back on it all it was just - objectively - incredibly daft. Then I gave up on the idea of specifically socialising and just enjoyed myself doing the things I liked doing, and one summer ended up drawing on a shared OpenCanvas session with a girl from another country who was on a Visual Novel development IRC channel I used to hang around on; now we live together and have a mortgage and a cat. Sometimes even nerdy otaku hobbies lead to fulfilling life relationships!

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« Reply #38 on: April 01, 2013, 03:00:24 pm »
Thanks guys.
I will eventually stop lying to myself and I will continue to interact with people as much as I can but if I have noone else to spend the weekend with at the end of the month I don't think it's an outright bad idea to have a pretty girl by my side for an hour or two.

Also Sar is one lucky sob. Good on you.
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« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2013, 02:15:06 am »

To be honest, even otaku-tastic hobbies. Even the hardest of hardcore geeks, nerds and otaku like to talk to other people who understand their thing. If you get entertainment or calm or a sense of purpose or well-being or accomplishment or anything out of it, then it's not a bad hobby.


The main problem with this is that these niggas don't leave the house.

I know... because I don't leave the house.

Also, interacting with other weeaboos IRL has historically been an exercise in frustration for me, to be honest.

It's like you're amongst them, but you're still alone anyway...

Shit is terribad since you come to the realization that you don't have the ability to not be alone even though you're surrounded by other people who seem to like the same shit that you do... it just compounds the problem (at least in my case).

As for martial arts, it's a random suggestion given that my life situation significantly improved when I started working for my Tae Kwon Do boss/master...

Dude gives like actual life advice and he's a lot better than like a therapist since I actually respect the guy enough to consider what he tells me seriously.

So...

I'm saying just try to get out there (with a hobby that normally involves leaving the house and won't go away after you "graduate"... dicking around in Japan town or whatever doesn't actually count) and maybe you'll hit the jackpot... but, to be honest, I may just be lucky to have stumbled across my current situation as I have...

Other people aren't as lucky.

(though I still do experience these long moments of doubt where I'm scared that I haven't actually gotten anywhere contrary to what I tell myself)

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« Reply #40 on: April 02, 2013, 10:18:39 am »
Also, interacting with other weeaboos IRL has historically been an exercise in frustration for me, to be honest.

I should possibly make it clear that I'd draw a huge fat line between "a hobby" and "passing the time doing something". A hobby - to my mind, at least - is something that you put something into, rather than just something that you take from. Watching anime isn't a hobby. Most videogame playing isn't really a hobby. They're just things you do to make the time pass easier, and personally I don't think they help anyone much unless your only problem is boredom.

Not to say there's anything wrong with watching anime, or killing time any other way. If you enjoy it, go for it. Just that it's not going to get you anywhere in particular either. And hanging around with other people who have the same problems and the same self-doubt and happen to kill time in the same way isn't going to make anyone feel better about themselves. But there are otaku/geek-oriented hobbies which have a perfectly decent social aspect to them. I've yet to meet a plastic kit modeller who isn't happy to chat about plastic kits with other plastic kit modellers, for example. I seem to recall Bucko met a fair few people through hardcore DDR-playing.

I didn't mean to put down the idea of taking up martial arts; I know a few people who've found that good to give them focus and a feeling of progression and self-improvement and all that. Plus, they're better than me in bar fights! ;-)

(though I still do experience these long moments of doubt where I'm scared that I haven't actually gotten anywhere contrary to what I tell myself)

You and me and everyone else on the planet.

I saw a comic strip once which summed it up pretty well, and annoyingly I can't remember enough of it or who it was by to find it again. But essentially it had a glum-looking chap talking to someone all chirpy and happy-looking, and asking "you're happy all the time, what's the secret? What's the difference between you and me?"; the answer was "the façade". And from everything I've seen, it's totally true.




Also: Shinma: Do you still have your magnificent beard?

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Re: Dangers of Akihabara
« Reply #41 on: April 02, 2013, 12:19:06 pm »
and personally I don't think they help anyone much unless your only problem is boredom.


My greatest fear in this life is actually being bored.

Watching anime isn't a hobby. Most videogame playing isn't really a hobby. They're just things you do to make the time pass easier, and personally I don't think they help anyone much unless your only problem is boredom.



Personally, I put a lot of thought into the anime and film that I watch... this might be why there's a disparity between me and the people I've interacted with where they just take it as something to pass the time.

We're really not on the same page.

Niggas don't wanna be talking about Patlabor 2 or Prince of the City (not realizing that the act of critical analysis will will enhance your viewing experience even on things that aren't too taxing to watch).

That said, I got hardcore into fighting games once upon a time, but I then realized that being competitive in it takes too much work that I'm not really willing to put in.

(also, nobody played Virtua Fighter... I wasn't helping either though because I only showed up to like one Ranbat)

Up until recently though, I was still hanging out with those FGC fools... it was fun and I'd like to do it again, but nowadays too much of my time is taken up by school and work...

Actually, that's a lie: I'm too lazy to leave the house lol
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Re: Dangers of Akihabara
« Reply #42 on: April 02, 2013, 12:48:09 pm »
Personally, I put a lot of thought into the anime and film that I watch... this might be why there's a disparity between me and the people I've interacted with where they just take it as something to pass the time.

We're really not on the same page.

Perhaps because you're not 'just' watching anime? I bet there are Internet forums and/or groups of friends in your very city who do sit around analysing anime plots, though. It was one of the favourite topics of the anime society at my old university, albeit with the typical air of studenty pretentiousness.

(I don't want to talk about Patlabour 2 because I can't remember which one was the one with the military, which one was the one with the sound thingy and which one was the one with the... what was it, AI? Bio-mecha? I just looked them up and I had 1 and 2 mixed up, so I'm not sure it wouldn't happen again.)

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« Reply #43 on: April 02, 2013, 04:21:31 pm »
Well Oblivion, as cheesey as it is, at least you have internet friends to berate you until you find some irl ones.

Perhaps because you're not 'just' watching anime? I bet there are Internet forums and/or groups of friends in your very city who do sit around analysing anime plots, though. It was one of the favourite topics of the anime society at my old university, albeit with the typical air of studenty pretentiousness.


OH GAWD.
I prefer my scifi to moemoe but for some reason 'deep anime plotlines' seem to be a key topic that otaku-types of the 'nice guy' trope try to to impress girls with. Like, the same way the arty types use stolen poetry lines, except they get really offended when you point out they haven't noticed anything a retarded child wouldn't.
Yes I did totally catch all that subplot in Evangelion, but no it wasn't consistent and no it's not getting you any ass.
Try a cinema club, rather than an anime club? Always some wordier weebs hiding there.
I know I just went off on a tangent and sound pretty dumb right now.


Moreover did anyone watch Psycho-Pass?
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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2013, 05:51:20 pm »

Perhaps because you're not 'just' watching anime? I bet there are Internet forums and/or groups of friends in your very city who do sit around analysing anime plots, though. It was one of the favourite topics of the anime society at my old university, albeit with the typical air of studenty pretentiousness.


That's... what the internet is for lol

But, for the most part, I've just come to terms with the idea that cinema and whatever is something that I have to enjoy alone.

Like, really... no one wants to talk about this shit. Man, I don't even know if I wanna talk about this shit (I just kinda vomit whatever onto my local animu board and I'm done for the week).

Also, moe moe is fine, actually...

I'm not so high and mighty that I'll pass on that crack cocaine (I'm thoroughly convinced that I'll get Oreimo 2 when Aniplex unleashes its pricing of terror on the US)... I'm just saying... niggas need to branch out more sometimes....

Like, people have seen Steins;Gate, but there's not a strong likelihood that they'll see Hiroshi Hamasaki's other work (which isn't the most "watchable" stuff, but it's really interesting, especially when you consider what he took with him going into Steins;Gate)... it's annoying, but that's just how it is. And I guess that's fine... I've seen it. I'm happy.

(on that note, he has that Marvel thing coming out this month... I'm a bit worried about it considering what happened with Yoshiaki Kawajiri and Highlander)

Also, I'm still trying to think of something to say considering Shinma's last post...

I have nothing >_>
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